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Cricket news - Lyon edges Ashwin in adaptability, reckons John Emburey
John Emburey was perhaps the premier off-spinner of his time, even if his international numbers might otherwise suggest. In 64 Tests between 1978 and 1995, divided by two rebel tours in South Africa - the Englishman picked up 147 wickets to go, with 76 head One-Day Internationals skin in 61. All his numbers are much more impressive - a huge 1,608 victims in 518 first-class games, full 72 five-fors, and 647 wickets in 536 list A games in 25.98.
The England captain for two Tests and four ODIs, Emburey appeared in coaching at the end of his 24-year career representatives, and was also briefly in the race for the role of India coach in 2007. Now a respected voice in the commentary box as a cutting-edge analyst, the 66-year-old time-saves on most things, turning to conceal yourself the trouble, his admiration for the R Ashwin and Nathan Lyon, the he cricket as the premier tweaker in the world today.
What do you do with the spin-shares in the world?
In England we have no young Spinner. To the best of our Spinner is Moeen Ali, the reluctant off-spinner. He is mostly a racket, dishes and now, for England, this is a melon, the bats. But he has done remarkably well in adapting to Test match cricket. He has a lot of success. He has not discovered the bowl, as well as in Australia, a year ago, but again, some of his form against India during the English summer. Today, it is hard work for the finger-Spinner in international cricket, especially in both formats of the game. On the lower level - I say the lower level, T20s, where it bowled less overs and it is played a lot more shots, the wrist spinners are more common, because of the googly is an option, as the ball rotates in both directions, because of the length and the speed of the Spinner bowl. We have seen Rashid Khan to come to Afghanistan and he has changed, and the speed with which he bowls back of a length, bowling a lot of Google bowling with good control and power stroke of that before, the shots to play the you are in the process, before he actually released the ball. That is, it becomes a guessing game for the batsman and wrist Spinner in this respect, very successful.
As soon as the 50-over game, you can have a little more patience as a hitter. You are not going to be a few bad balls from the wrist spinner, and then you can start picking, the wrist spinner, because of the focus on spiking the ball early or halfway through the recordings. A finger-spinner is likely to give you more control, but with the restrictions of the fields that obviously works against him. But finger spinners have a role to play in the world game, all formats of the game. If you are talking about the two best finger-Spinner now that (Rangana) has withdrawn-per year from Sri Lanka, Ashwin and Lyon are in the top of spin bowling. In India, Ashwin is a master of his art. He bowl so well overseas, perhaps because the ball has to bounce a bit. And he is not someone who gives the ball a lot to a lot of flight and dip. He relies much more on its variations in India. If he does not accept that tactics overseas, it works. Whereas, you see, Lyon, he is someone who gets a lot of dip and gets bounce and the ball spins. Lyon now has a better Cricket player, at the gates of the world, because he has learned to bowl with good pace changes and overseas, he bowls a little flatter. In India he meets not to give the ball, so a lot of air and he has adapted to the game game in the world. I don't think Ashwin has done the right thing. He has had his Indian game away to England, and the way to Australia and he probably has not had as much success as he should. I thought he bowled brilliantly (the first Test), Adelaide in the first innings, and then in the second innings, he reverted to the old way he used to bowl in overseas, and he was not as effective.
A year ago or so, I would have said Ashwin is cricket is the best spin bowler in the world. But I think that mantle goes more in the direction of Lyon in terms of the bowling all around the world. In India, no one is a better bowler than Ashwin, he bowls a much faster Tempo, the pitches, in turn, a little more, and the variations that he takes on these places allow him to hit the bat on the outer side and the inner side edge.
This is surprising to you that a thinking bowler has not adjusted to Ashwin, how well do you think he should have?
Yes, and that is the beauty of the world that the conditions that you face anywhere in the world in slightly different ways. You have to try and fit your game. Your wrist Spinner, because you usually get a spin on the majority of pitches are able to bowl over international courts. In Australia, left most of it in the past on leg-spin. Now, they rely on off-spin, which is very unusual for Australia in Australian conditions. But he stressed that the revolutions that Lyon gets the ball, the pace that he bowls in Australia, the bounce as well. Also the amount of spin and the control he has got now. When he first came on the scene five or six years ago, he had no control. Everything was in the air, he had bad boxes to him. Now his fields are much better, he is bowling with a lot more control and he mastered the art of pace and learn to bowl the right pace on the pitches much faster than what he used. He is now a more rounded spin bowler whereas Ashwin has not accepted, because he has too many variants.
So many variations can work, therefore, against you?
It can do that. Sometimes you need to be patient. It's not about trying to get a wicket every ball, but with the understanding that each ball has to get a Chance of a wicket, and you can be an attacking bowler. Attack bowlers to me tend to be those who spin the ball a lot, and the boys, the rotation of the drum more grueling spin bowlers. I was a grueling spin bowler, because I was not a big spinner and therefore had to rely on my strengths, this was a good control over length and line. I left me to bounce a little and was a little more effective as the match went on. I could have a job with early in the match and a potential match-winner in the backend whereas Ashwin can win a game in India in the first innings in the same way that Lyon can, and that is what makes you two special bowlers. But it depends on how quickly you adapt to changing conditions in the world.
Saqlain Mushtaq was the first, bowled the doosra. He rolled it so well that it's influence on his line, as he rolled his off-spinner, who began to pitch middle and leg and you go along the leg. But it was an ideal line to bowl the doosra. For a year and a half, it was the line he played influenced, because he overdo it. And because of the line he bowled, the batsman would then play for the doosra and not the off-spinner. He had yet to bowl a ball outside off-stump, bringing the outer edge to slip in games caught, but also the inner edge to the game and caught at short-leg. Will realize the bowler that he was, he was able to overcome them, and to customize and a bit more patience, and you come back to a little more Orthodox. It's the same with Ravi Ashwin could. He is an excellent thrower, but he is someone who wants that something happens all the time, instead of sitting and being patient, and sometimes let the batsman make a mistake. He is a game-winning bowler, but sometimes he tries to do it on the good places, if he should squeeze a little more and wait for the conditions to allow the other balls he balls come into play.
What is the one thing you would say, Ashwin, it is more effective away from home?
It is very difficult for a bowler to say, which has nearly 400 Test wickets, how to be a better bowler, if you only have a 147!! All I can use is to play my experience and watched a lot of cricket over a long period of time, and talk about bowling with control, but to still be patient. The adjustment of the pitch that you play on that to dictate how you bowl. And in accordance with the lines, that you bowl because if you are bowling different lines all the time, it is very difficult to control overseas. Not so much in India, where the courts are slower, where it is occasionally biting and jumping.
But to get here in Australia, you must on the upper side of the ball, so that you have a more revolutions from above instead of from the side, this is what makes Lyon. Lyon makes the anywhere. Lyon has a lot of variations, which he learned to really bowl an arm-ball, but he has to get the bowl very, very well. He has very consistently with more bowling, he is always, and as I have already mentioned, you have to find the right pace to bowl on the pitches that you play. This is what he has done now, and that's why he has a successful bowler. I don't think Australia would be, how successful a page without Lyon in their ranks. If you had a spinner is not as effective, not would you bowl pages. It is complementary to the three fast bowlers. They are good throwers, but they are better bowlers, with Lyon in the XI than they would be without him in the side. It would be interesting if Lyon was injured and had to miss three or four games, he would be very difficult to replace.
Are finger-Spinner in danger of going out of Commission, especially in white-ball cricket?
We have never been a mystery spinner in England. If it is felt that someone with a very unorthodox action early in your career, then coached by you! So we don't have this kind of puzzles. That's why Ashwin is a wonderful Cricket player, because he has worked out of different balls in the bowl. You only see the ball in slow motion replay, his fingers down on the side of the ball, he gets over-turning, side turn, he shells, bullets, slingshots, he has a arm-ball, is faster, he has on his carrom ball.
Shane Warne invented a ball every time if he played cricket. He had a leg-break, he had a google, and he had a pinball machine. He had all the faith that he had seven or eight other balls. This is an art in itself, so that the batsman believe that you have a little bit more in their armor than is actually.
You have changes of pace, but it is not a secret, leg-spin - it either goes one way or it goes the other way, or is it more directly. You have variations in pace and flight, this is a natural thing to do.
As an offie, where did you enjoy bowling the most? And why?
In Test match cricket? Not in England! I enjoyed Australia because you have to put on spin. You can rely on it to bounce and hit high on the bat. I found that I had more success in Australia as I had a cricket somewhere else in the world, in Test. They tend to enjoy where you are. Try and adapt to the conditions, but I rolled the wrong pace in India. In 1981, I rolled too fast and, in 1993, I rolled to slowly. In conversation with Azhar (Mohammad Azharuddin) at the end of that 1993 series, he said he felt that I should have rolled a little faster. I just more Indian bowlers in India, and they just bowl at a slightly faster pace. Nothing is in the air, as you bowl here in Australia, but you bowl with a slightly faster step, bowl with control and look in the bowl girl. Let the pitch do it for you. This is ok when the set rotate places. If the pitches flat, you still have the bowl with variations. The people had expected that they bowl well in India, as it was in India, but you still need to work on pitches.
This has to do works on the heart, the weight of the expectations that you had?
I don't think at the time, but after that it's back fact, if you look at, and revel in memories. I have the right? Am I right? I would have it mean different? And I search and I don't want to say, Yes, I would it's just different. I would have been a better bowler in India, I had bowled in a different way? Yes, I probably would. So I have only me to blame. You are always learning, you never stop to learn. I probably learned more about bowling, when I finished playing than when I played. Rajesh Chauhan, he rolled a sort of faster pace against us in 1993, and he has us on the backfoot... He was someone rolled you in a good Tempo, to play our man hard. I should have learned that, should bowling flat a little and bowl looking likely to be young women. When I went to India, I do not adapt to the conditions should be as good as I have done.
In India, the team that you always want to assess your skills, if you are a spinner.
Who was the only batsman that annoys you the most?
India have always played spin. I was (Sachin) Tendulkar, he got through on the off stump, he lined the ball up on the off-stump and just outside. If it was straight, he played too long; if it is turned on, he went wicket to mid-may, and so he took the slip out of the game. He took silly mid-off playing, and he went with the rotation. He can just take singles around the corner. And then, if you strayed in line or length, he would be the belt or along the path and go over the top. He was the little master, he was a master of what he did. He was very reminiscent of calculating impact man (Geoff) Boycott. He valued his wicket, didn't want to play extravagant shots, and he proposed to reduce the risk, always, but he had enough shots, they were still together to move the score and if he want to play it fact, some of the shots he had to unleash the skill, the shots on you as well. All the batsman were different - (Gundappa) Viswanath, (Sunil) Gavaskar back in the early 80s, Ravi Shastri, when he came, was a positive stroke down from his high and his feet to beat and looked over the top. Azhar was very much of all the leg-side, but he timed the ball so nice, even if you tried to make it wider, and suddenly, he opens the face and it will fly through the ceiling. He was very difficult the bowl. Great players are great players because they all play very well. It is a different game, if the conditions in the bowlers ' favour. It makes it much harder for the batsman and that is to play spin, if you judge a batsman's ability to adapt and cope with conditions and score. And Tendulkar, the Gavaskars, Azharuddins of this world, Viswanath, Vengsarkar, they were masters at what they did. Allan Border was a good player, the tracks spin in its own way. Players appreciated their doors, they were the hardest to get. Viv Richards, for example, played recordings, but she always felt she had a chance with him. I have never, in the Tests! But they always believed, because of the way he played, they had a chance, he held it out, always on your toes.
It is a General belief that batsmanship against high-class spin bowling is on the decline. Your take?
I would not say that it has become worse because there are more good Spinner to earlier have contributed to the development of the skills of the batsman as well. Now, there are fewer top-quality Spinner to play international cricket. If the top play Spinner in the world, they have proved that they are still a top batsman. Lyon has proven how Ashwin has proved its worth. This is a good thing, because it sets the bits-and-piece-Spinner - batsman, a Spinner and bowl a few overs. It is not difficult for you, because you have to get the variations, or the fineness or the control of wickets on a regular basis, or bowl control to squeeze the game. There was a lot more spin bowlers in the 1970s and '80s and early '90s than it is now. Obviously, in the early to mid 90s, you had Warne and (Muttiah) Muralitharan. You had Kumble, Abdul Qadir, at the end of his career, Mushtaq Ahmed, (Anil). Suddenly, there was a lot of good Spinner. At that time, in Australia, Warne, Tim may, (Stuart) MacGill had came - they had three good spinners over a long period of time. In India, the team that you always want to assess your skills, if you are a spinner. Because they play spin well, you know where you stand, as a spinner, when you turn the bowl.
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